Notes on John Perry's Dialog on Personal Identity and Immortality
The Third Night
Weirob claims that "a person is a live human
body," and that therefore to be the same person is just to be (note
I have not said "have") the same live human body. This implies
that (1) if the body dies, the person dies; and (2) one is no longer oneself if
one is dead. Cohen asks about the case of Julia North and Mary Frances Beaudine (p. 38).
The case shows, he thinks, that the same person can have more than one living
body (i.e., not all cases of bodily death are cases of personal death) thus refuting Weirobs claim
that if the body dies, the person dies too
(i.e., all cases of bodily death are cases of personal death). The case of Julia and Mary Frances is illustrated in the following diagram:
The person that
emerges has Julias brain and Mary Frances body. Who is she? On Cohen and Millers analysis, Julia has had two bodies her
original one and Mary Frances Beaudines. Cohen and Miller agree that "Julias
brain in Mary Frances body" must be Julia. In fact, most people, and
the (fictional) U.S. Supreme Court, agree. The argument is that the brain is the seat
of ones psychological characteristics and memories the elements that make
one oneself. What matters is that Julias psychological states be
been preserved; if Julia's psychological states have been preserved, Julia has been preserved.
This person probably believes
herself to be Julia, has Julias psychological characteristics, and thinks she
has Julias real memories; furthermore, this person has Julias memories
in the right causal way, because shes got Julias brain. That Mary Frances
body has been preserved simply does not matter, because bodily identity does not determine
personal identity. Weirob acknowledges that most people would think this is Julia. But Weirob disagrees.
Weirob denies that Julia has had two bodies; Weirob thinks Mary Frances has had
two brains. What matters for Weirob is that Mary Frances body is preserved.
For Weirob, remember, a person is a live human body, and since Mary Frances body
is still alive, this person is Mary Frances not Julia, whose body is dead, and
who is therefore dead, on Weirobs view. A brain is a body part, after all.
A person is not a body part. If my arm were cut off, no one would say Ive ceased
to exist that my body without the arm is no longer me. Im still the same
person without my arm. In the same way, if my brain is removed, we shouldnt say
the body without the brain is no longer me. Im still the same person without my brain. The "WHO?" person only appears to have Julias memories,
etc. She thinks she has Julias memories, but she is wrong because she simply doesnt
know who she really is. According to Weirob, shes really Mary Frances with a new brain.
Weirob is relying on our ordinary intuition that a person with a transplanted heart or kidney,
for example, is still the same person. It would be absurd to suggest that a person who
receives a transplanted organ
becomes the dead person whose heart or kidney was donated. The question is real, too, not just a matter of how we talk aspirin example (41). To Cohen and Millers astonishment, Weirob reveals that she has been offered
the very same operation (a transplant of her brain into a different body), but has
refused because she does not think the resulting person would be her! Whats Weirobs reasoning behind this surprising decision? Its a
version of the duplication argument from the Second Night. It's an extended thought-experiment. Suppose, she says, that it were possible to duplicate her brain, preserving
all information like "Hubert" in Dennetts story. Hubert, as you
recall, existed only virtually; he had no body, and could not be copied into a living human body.
But suppose it were possible to
create a duplicate of Gretchen's brain,
preserving all information (like Hubert's) AND
capable of being implanted in a living body (unlike Hubert's).
Got the picture? Weirob calls this a "brain rejuvenation." Well, as a matter of fact, Weirob says, if she could have this kind of surgery,
she would agree to it. Shed happily take a copy of her own brain, if it could be
implanted in her own body. But alas, that surgery would require Weirobs body to
be healthy, just the opposite of her
current physical situation. But if it were possible, Weirob would agree to it,
because she thinks shed still be herself afterwards. So here's what Weirob would accept:
The thought experiment continues. If this brain rejuvenation
were possible,
i.e., if it were possible to create a copy of Gretchen's brain
capable of being implanted in a living body,
then it would presumably be possible to create multiple copies of Gretchen's brain.
If the technology existed to create one, then surely the same technology could
be used to create others.
Suppose one other copy were created, say, and implanted into another living body, as shown below;
it doesn't matter whose body. In Dennett's words, "some Johnny-come-lately Rosencrantz or
Guildenstern" would do.
One copy of her brain goes into her body, resulting in Person #1. The other
copy goes into a different body resulting in Person #2.
Which of the new persons would be Weirob: Person #1 or Person #2? Weirob thinks it would have to be Person #1 the one with her original
body. This shows, she says, that bodily identity is what really matters.
Sameness of memories or psychological features is not sufficient for
sameness of person; we saw that with the example of the man who believes he has Napoleon's memories.
Person #2 would certainly believe she (or he) is the real
Weirob, but the thought-experiment argument shows Person #2 simply cannot be the real Weirob.
This is why Weirob refuses the surgery she has been offered (her brain in a different body).
That surgery could produce only someone like Person #2.
The discussion now ends because the Weirob character (brain and body) dies.
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